>>>>How are we getting our money back over time?
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>>>Actually, we're getting money now. A fair number of illegals pay social security tax, but can't collect, so their payments go into the system to help pay everyone else's.
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>>And how much of a percentage is the SS compared to the federal/state taxes they are not paying. And why do you think that they are paying that anyway? Many get paid under the table, so there are no taxes involved.
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>And how much of a percentage is the under-the-table compared to those where the employer just uses ANY SSN he's given and doesn't want to know whether it's real or not. Just having a SSN on file is sufficient deniability for any employer - "hey, we can't check them all, it's just too much, I'm no expert to know which one is a fake". Those who pay mostly under the table are the worst scum of the Earth, and... are you suggesting they are a vast majority?

Again, I've already said - and in this thread too - that the companies should be severely penalized. You seem to insist that I'm not aware of this side of the equation. If you feel so strongly about that part of this issue, start a thread on it. I'm sure that the individual illegal alien side will popup in that one as well.