Tracy,

i think you're right in that. There is too much history involved and it needs a dramatic event to change this all. WWII was the event in many european countries to change that.

Walter,


>Your point is well taken :o) I think our problem here is not one that will be solved in this generation. It is due to our history, conciousness, and culture. Too much to go into detail here, but I think the goals Tamar expresses are valid ones and ones we should try to achieve as a country, but it won't happen easily and it won't happen overnight.
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>>>>>>I would ROFL is it was not that sad that people really believe this stuff....
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>>>>>>Can you explain why the homocide rates in the US is many times higher than in other western countries where guns are heavily restricted ?? You're fooled by the gun-lobby fabricating facts from statistical data. You as a programmer should know you can those statistics to support any claim yo want.
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>>>>>>So sad....
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>>>>>It's how we deal with the over-population problem.
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>>>>Which overpopulation? the US is vastly underpopulated if you compare it to other parts of the world. To give you an idea. Europe holds almost twice the number of citizens in a geographical space that is almost half of that of the US.
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>>>You can't compare the US to the rest of the world. We are better than everyone else, so there's obviously - no comparison!<g>
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>>Entirely my point....