>You quuote wikipedia and expect to be taken seriously?
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>Aside from that, I can point to many incidents where criminals confronted victims who had a gun
>and were themselves gunned down. There was an incident in San Diego (I can remember the exact
>dat, but if you need it, I'll look it up) not too long ago where a robber walked in and demanded
>cash. The clerk complied and gave him all the money. Then the robber shot & killed the clerk for
>no reason at all.
>
>Then there was a convenience store clerk who was confronted by a robber with a gun, who then
>pulled out his own gun & shot the robber dead.
>
>I'd rather be the one walking away instead of being the one carried away.
You complain about my sources here and come down with anecdotical hearsay ??
Now tell me why gun homicide rate in the US are 2 to 10 times higher than elsewhere in the developper world ?? Why do you think ??
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Do you think the average american would stand a chance oposing three armed intruders. Do
>>>you think your chances grow by having a gun or do you think you'll be shot as soon as they
>>>notice you're armed...>>>
>>>Yes, I stand a better chance than Taylor did with his machete.
>>>
>>>
A bugler is seldomly out there to kill you..... if you don't stand in his way he won't
>>>kill you. If you carry a gun and feel like a hero your chances of surviving that event
>>>drasticly decreases.>>>
>>>Nonsense.
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>>From wikipedia, (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States)
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>>
Between 1987 and 1990, David McDowall found that guns were used in defense during a crime incident 64,615 times annually.[59] This equates to two times out of 1,000 incidents (0.2%) that occurred in this time frame.[59] For violent crimes (assault, robbery, and rape), guns were used 0.83% of the time in self defense.[59] Of the times that guns were used in self defense, 71% of the crimes were committed by strangers, with the rest of the incidents evenly divided between offenders that were acquaintances or persons well known to the victim.[59] Of all incidents where a gun was used for self defense, victims shot at the offender 28% of the time.[59] In 20% of the self defense incidents, the guns were used by police officers.[59] During the same time period, there were 46,319 gun homicides,[60] and the National Crime Victimization Survey estimates that 2,628,532 nonfatal crimes involving guns occurred.[59]>>
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>>you might feel lucky and well trained, but notice I said "The average american". I do not have a high opinion everyone will react the same.
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>>As for Sean Taylor (I really don't know the event you're referring to...) it is an incident. You cannot draw any conclusions on an incident. Else I could easily say that if the US had implemented gun control at the same time we did, this event probably would never have happened. or ... If he just co-operated he'd probably would still be alive. or... if he was presenting his gun, he'd probably still would be dead.
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>>Again, you could feel that you could hold a gun for self protection to feel safer, but the citation above does not draw that picture for the average american. Only 0.2% of gun incidents were used for self defence. Great....
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>>>Sean Taylor, his girlfriend and his baby were holed up in their bedroom behind a locked
>>>door. The 4 thugs broke open the bedroom door and then shot Taylor. He died because he was
>>>holding a machete, not a shotgun. These 4 guys brought a gun for a reason. To shoot anyone
>>>getting in their way.
>>>
>>>My master bedroom has only one door in, as do most houses in America. Had they broken open
>>>the door to my bedroom, the first thing that would have happened is I would have cut them
>>>down with 3 or 4 shots from my shotgun.
>>>
>>>Game over. I win. And I wouldn't loose a minutes sleep over it.
>>>
>>>And I'm not the one leaving horizontal in a body bag.
