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11/12/2007 16:31:17
 
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Kevin,

Nice. I agree with you, and I wanted to point something out that I know about. South Korea requires all males to do at least some time in the military, so they all know about weapons and how to use them. Plus they get disciple training ( not sure if that helps or not :D). And they are lower on the chart then us.

Beth
>>>THE GUNS DID KILL 4 PEOPLE.
>
>Many more people would have died had not the armed citizen stopped him!!!!!! What is so difficult
>to see about this. The presence of a firearm in the hands of a citizen prevented MORE people
>from being killed.
>
>
>>>I cannot believe the ignorance behind the reasoning the gun saved people lives. You tell that to
>>>your children at school when another kid got killed because of a gun.
>
>Tell that to the high school principle in Florida who pulled out his gun and subdued a gunman on
>campus. How many people would have died had the principle not been armed??
>
>
>
>>>Sure and how do you explain the gun homocide rates to be 2 to 10 times as else where in the >>world ??????
>
>Again, how do you explain the lower crime rates in areas where there are less or no
>restrictions against citizens owning guns?? You can't because your argument is baseless.
>
>
>Not sure what crime rate you're referring to, but according to your beloved wikipedia, the US
>is not at the top of the charts. It's in the middle chart. Not sure why you keep quoting this
>as it doesn't contrubte to the argument against guns.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homicide_rate
>
>Do try and get your facts straight. Alot of the countries at the low end of the chart are
>dictatorships. That's why the have low crime rates. Russia has laws banning guns, and they
>have a much higher crime rate than the US.
>
>Your whole argument is premised on the assumption that if there were no guns, there would
>be no murders, or even less murders. Well here's a historical factoid for you: People have
>been killing each other since Cain & Able. It has always been, and always will be. Guns
>are just the tool of the trade that criminals today choose to use. If you take them all
>aways, they'll just pick up a baseball bat or knife. Do we ban all them too?
>
>Guess that leaves you out of arguments, unless of course you're going to fabricate more 'facts'.
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