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11/12/2007 19:08:52
 
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If that's the case, yes she did saves lives. Many lives.

>The gaurd shot him twice and dropped him. He then put his own gun to his head. Same result. She
>saved lives.
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>>I think Fox news is saying that he might have taken his own life.
>>
>>>Take a look at the 2 church shootings in Colorado this weekend. This guy killed 2 people
>>>at the first church, then drove to the second church and opened fired there and killed
>>>another person. He was then shot & killed by a private, volunteer security gaurd.
>>>
>>>IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE ONE CITIZEN WAS ARMED WITH A GUN FOR DEFENSE THAT THIS GUY WAS STOPPED
>>>
>>>Had the citizen not had a gun, many more people would have died. All your facts & figures &
>>>rantings and ravings cannot deny that a gun saved lived here.
>>>
>>>When private citizens are allowed to arm themselves for defense, lives are saved.
>>>
>>>Case closed.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>>>Do you think the average american would stand a chance oposing three armed intruders. Do
>>>>>you think your chances grow by having a gun or do you think you'll be shot as soon as they
>>>>>notice you're armed...

>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, I stand a better chance than Taylor did with his machete.
>>>>>
>>>>>A bugler is seldomly out there to kill you..... if you don't stand in his way he won't
>>>>>kill you. If you carry a gun and feel like a hero your chances of surviving that event
>>>>>drasticly decreases.

>>>>>
>>>>>Nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>From wikipedia, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States)
>>>>
>>>>Between 1987 and 1990, David McDowall found that guns were used in defense during a crime incident 64,615 times annually.[59] This equates to two times out of 1,000 incidents (0.2%) that occurred in this time frame.[59] For violent crimes (assault, robbery, and rape), guns were used 0.83% of the time in self defense.[59] Of the times that guns were used in self defense, 71% of the crimes were committed by strangers, with the rest of the incidents evenly divided between offenders that were acquaintances or persons well known to the victim.[59] Of all incidents where a gun was used for self defense, victims shot at the offender 28% of the time.[59] In 20% of the self defense incidents, the guns were used by police officers.[59] During the same time period, there were 46,319 gun homicides,[60] and the National Crime Victimization Survey estimates that 2,628,532 nonfatal crimes involving guns occurred.[59]
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>>>>you might feel lucky and well trained, but notice I said "The average american". I do not have a high opinion everyone will react the same.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As for Sean Taylor (I really don't know the event you're referring to...) it is an incident. You cannot draw any conclusions on an incident. Else I could easily say that if the US had implemented gun control at the same time we did, this event probably would never have happened. or ... If he just co-operated he'd probably would still be alive. or... if he was presenting his gun, he'd probably still would be dead.
>>>>
>>>>Again, you could feel that you could hold a gun for self protection to feel safer, but the citation above does not draw that picture for the average american. Only 0.2% of gun incidents were used for self defence. Great....
>>>>
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>>>>>Sean Taylor, his girlfriend and his baby were holed up in their bedroom behind a locked
>>>>>door. The 4 thugs broke open the bedroom door and then shot Taylor. He died because he was
>>>>>holding a machete, not a shotgun. These 4 guys brought a gun for a reason. To shoot anyone
>>>>>getting in their way.
>>>>>
>>>>>My master bedroom has only one door in, as do most houses in America. Had they broken open
>>>>>the door to my bedroom, the first thing that would have happened is I would have cut them
>>>>>down with 3 or 4 shots from my shotgun.
>>>>>
>>>>>Game over. I win. And I wouldn't loose a minutes sleep over it.
>>>>>
>>>>>And I'm not the one leaving horizontal in a body bag.
I ain't skeert of nuttin eh?
Yikes! What was that?
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