I posted a story a few posts ago about an old farmer that was murdered in his home by a druggie. Seems people disregard it. I don't care about what's happening on Wikipedia, Fox News, Netherlands, or PA - I care about what happened here.

>I'v already posted enough supporting material. There are plenty of accounts of people wwith firearms
>defending themselfs. And there's plenty of evidence showing that guns lower the threat of violent
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>Of course, you'll just do what you just did here - deny the facts and tell me I'm wrong. I'm confident
>in what I know and one thing I do know is I'll sleep soundly tonight knowing I can defend me and my
>family should a criminal break in.
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>>This was a weak defense Kevin. So far Hugo is the winner. As a reaction to you he gave other 'anecdotes'. You might try to prove that his type of anecdotes is occurring only very seldomly and yours is occurring most of the time. But you didn't come with such numbers and I think you'll not gonna find numbers in your favor.
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>>>Yup, sometimes innocent people die. Innocent people get hit by cars, stabbed, poisoned, strangled,
>>>and the like.
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>>>If someone points a gun at you bent on killing you, would you say, "I'm a pacifist and I don't
>>>believe in guns"? Do you think the murdering thug will care at all? All you did was tell him
>>>that you are unarmed and that he can then kill you at his convenience.
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>>>I'll send flowers to your funeral.
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>>>>>In this case they did. The victim armed with gun lived, the unarmed one didn't.
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>>>>And there are anecdotes that show how bad having a readily available gun is.
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>>>>For example once in Avellaneda, a city in the outskirts of Buenos Aires a lady at her home panicked when some guy was trying to enter her house, and she shoot him, only to kill a baby being carried in his stroller by her mother some meters away.
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>>>>Then there is the case in Mar del Plata, another Argentinean city, where a military guy while sitting in his balcony, saw some guy trying to steal his car, so he grab his gun and kill him, only to find that the guy was actually entering his own car which was exactly the same as his, which was parked a few meters away.
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>>>>And the third anecdote I will post is a guy that heard someone entering his house, so he grabbed his gun and kill the "intruder", who happened to be his grand son.
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>>>>I am sure all those people involved in those events think guns are great.