>>You dont believe that there would be less murders?
>
>People are not killing each other because the have a gun. They want to kill each other, and the gun
>is the tool they use to do it. Take away guns, and they'll find a different way.

I think you're wrong. That's true in some cases, but an awful lot of murders occur because someone gets angry and there's an gun at hand.

I can't quite figure out the search terms to use to pull this info up, but I know that I've heard community leaders here in Philly (where the murder rate is quite high) talking about a strategy of encouraging people to leave their guns at home to prevent exactly this kind of crime. I'm reasonably certain one story I heard quoted study, but as I said, I can't figure out what to search for.

Tamar