Frank,
Not sure how GetPem can help you, but I am also not sure why you say is design time only, you can use it at run time too, unless I misunderstanding completely, something for what I am very well known for
loForm = Createobject('Form')
? Getpem(loForm, 'Top')
[Deleted rest of message, I think I oversimplified]
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