>>The Koran has just as many messages supporting women, if not more. You cannot negate the subjugation of women by adding love to that act. Subjugation is subjugation no matter how much she is loved.
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>Subjagation is a fact of life. I'm subjagated to my employer, my government my church leaders and my God. It does matter if they treat me in a loving way or not.

C'mon Howard, that's THE daftest thing I've ever heard you say (and you have said a few < s >)!!!

And, by the way, your God (he's mine too) doesn't treat you any way at all. He lets you make all your decisions and enjoy the consequences.