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The Spy who came in from the Cold
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02/01/2008 13:44:32
 
 
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Publicly, if they are citizens, then yes they trust them (once they are vetted). If they are 'anything for money' with no loyalty, then 80% yes if you can guarantee you are the bigger funder. Privately, in the field, about 50% - even citizens. You can't blame them. A study of the family history of most Arab-Americans demonstrates why in a vivid manner (family denoting immediate plus extended as that is the muslim household or close family unit unless separated by war, occupation, or geopolitics). There are too many familial issues in our population. The vetting process usually disqualifies them - regardless of what they profess, they consider themselves in this order (not referring to Farsi or Urdu or any other in this example):

1. Muslim
2. Arab
3. American

demonstrated by the polygraph tests in contradiction to how they typically claim belonging in this order:

1. Muslim
2. American
3. Arab

now Christian Arabs don't usually have this duplicity (they are often unaware themselves until tested), but their loyalty is typically:

1. Arab
2. American
3. Christianity



This has been the case as long as we have had Muslim Arab immigrants. Now, notice that Muslim is always first so in the case of differences or wars based on religious principals or ideals, you see the problem.



>>Fascinating piece by Donald Gregg in the Washington Post titled "George Smiley's War"
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>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/30/AR2007123002236.html
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>>The bio at the bottom doesn't give you the real flavor of it. Gregg worked for Shackley - the Ghost - in covert ops in Burma in the 60s and ran a good deal of Phoenix in Vietnam. He was the prime mover in the support of the Contras. He ran Felix Rodriguez - "Max", the guy who got Che ... He is one of George Bush senior's closest confidants in the intelligence world. If Scocroft speaks for Poppy on foreign policy, Gregg speaks for the Bush who ran CIA.
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>>If you know how to read between the lines on this one, it is a very big deal and I guarantee you there are folks from Langley to Baghdad to Islamabad to Seoul reading it like tea leaves.
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>>Tracy, you're probably the only one who'll realy get this, but I didn't want you to miss it <s>
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>>Sed Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?
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>>Happy New Year.

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>Interesting reading indeed. Thanks for the link. I would have asked the same question your latin quote asks.
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>When the Cold War ended the CIA had plenty of Russian speaking officers. How many Arabic speakers did they recruit since? Did they realize the need then? They have a ready-made set of skills in the Arab-American community. Did they recruit there? Or didn't they because of distrust?
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>We sent Japanese-Americans to internment camps in WWII. Does history really repeat itself? Have we learned anything?
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