Thank you for your explanation and views Mo. It is good to read another viewpoint, especially one with direct knowledge and experience.


>Tracy,
>As I said earlier, Islam is in need of "Luther" but Islam main problem specially on the Sunni side is that Islam do not have a core country (as defined by Sam Huntington). Any cleric can interpret a Quran verse in a special way and if he has enough followers they will accept his interpretation and trust me I've heard some weird Fatwas (religious edicts)


This is just like some extremist organizations here in the states and in other countries.


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>Moderate Muslim scholars must be supported by the west and pressure Islamic countries to support them also instead of harboring and give freedom to the extremists as they have been doing in Europe and to some point here in the US.



I completely agree.



>For clarification, Moderate Muslim can be compared to conservative Christian in the US.
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>Some voices of moderate Muslims can be found on this web site
>http://www.aifdemocracy.org/
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>>I don't believe he will find it written as such literally. I think it comes from Al-Taqiyya - only to be used if it furthers the cause of Islam. Please correct me if I am wrong. I think the misconception stems from Quran 3:28 and 16:106 because it is misused by some since it permits believers to conceal their faith when threatened (if believers fear for their safety they may use deception to protect themselves).
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>>>Grady,
>>>Please post the Koran verses that teaches to lie to the infidels or anyone.
>>>If you do, I may take your post seriously.
>>>Mo
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>>>>This all began with - A Canadian soldier was killed and another injured in southern Afghanistan Tuesday when the heavily armoured vehicle they were travelling in hit a roadside bomb.
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>>>>Having witnessed the death of 3200 people at the hands of muslims and knowing that the Koran teaches muslims that it is okay to lie to infidels and even to befriend and then betray them, I find it difficult to trust any member of that group anymore.
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>>>>>>Please acquaint yourself with Mohammed and his followers - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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>>>>>Modernization has never been easy.
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>>>>>I think that website applies more to Shia and Sunnis than Sufists.