>>Rainer spent some time as Editor. He didn't make business decisions.
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>That's exactly what I'm lamenting. They should have let a Foxer run a Fox newspaper, and they may have even made some honest money, instead of being dragged through so many threads like this (which they, Eli, have deserved).

Just to be clear, Rainer was editor before the sale to Eli. When they bought Pinnacle (or whatever it was called by then), they brought in their own editor and their horrible business practices.

Tamar