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Petition to reinstate John Petersen (JVP)
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From
01/02/2008 13:40:52
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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01/02/2008 10:25:37
John Baird
Coatesville, Pennsylvania, United States
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Bill and Claude both threatened members here with physical violence. Steven did not, he should be allowed back.

I guess that's one interpretation.

In fairness, Bill challenged somebody to a sword-fighting duel. If you google "sword fighting duel" it appears that a duel is "a consensual fight between two people, with matched, usually deadly weapons in accordance with rules explicitly or implicitly agreed upon, over a point of honor, usually accompanied by a trusted representative (who might themselves fight), often in contravention of the law." The "consensual" nature of the dual is key IMHO. No consent = no duel.

In addition, I can find no published record of an injury suffered in a sword fighting duel in the US in recent decades. It doesn't happen any more.

Perhaps it was frightening to the target, but this was not a threat of sword attack. It was an invitation to an archaic consensual battle over a point of honor. He might equally have challenged his target to a Joust. ;-) IMHO it was an eccentric gesture, not a realistic threat. I accept that the recipient of the invitation was alarmed, but perhaps the dust has settled and things look different in hindsight- especially when we're asked to reconsider our thoughts about JVP in hindsight.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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