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>Dave my email address is rrteal@netcom.ix . I recently upgraded
>my software and netcom advised to use rrteal@ix.netcom.com but
>apparently that is incorrect.
>
>also have tried refresh in the form and outside of it, it doesn't seem
>to work. refreshing individual objects works but is time consuming.
>the fields will refresh as they are accessed, but do not show blank
>when form is displayed.

can you send me a copy of the form? i'll look at it tonight... the form refresh should be refreshing the indiv. objects (set lockscreen on before starting and off when done)