I'm sorry I thought it was clear. I decided to hand code my UI. Most use the ClassDesigner.py (a visual designer) to design their UI's. I just find I can do more hand coding. IOW Dabo does not force the developer to hand code UI's. In fact I'd say most stuff can be done using ClassDesigner.

Ed is in Texas and is coding in python. I think he is enjoying work.

Johnf