I've asked this question several times and have recieved several responses, but so far I'm still unsuccessful. I'm trying to use a toolbar with a top level form. I kind of understand that the toolbar object has to be created after the top-level form and it's visible property then set to true. I've tried this but the toolbar shows up for a second in the top level form, and the docks to the foxpro screen. Thanks in advance for any help provided.