>>I salute you for trying to get John reinstated. It's a good friend who stands by you when you're down. At this point, though, I think the best thing you can do is accept defeat graciously and move on to other things.
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>>I accept that Michel won't budge, but actually, I don't feel any defeat. The majority still remember JVP as some who provides plenty of value.
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>>And it's good to know that some opposed it for essentially personal reasons...rather dubious, given this is supposed to be a tech forum. My exchange with Tore last night was particularly insightful.
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>Well, here's another data point. I received an email from someone who received an email from John. He flamed them for what they said in the UT public discussion. With you being as coy as you were about whether John wanted to return or not I was not sure whether he was following the discussion. Obviously he was. It's a moot point now but I'm sure you will understand that I have withdrawn my support for him receiving another chance.

You know he's in here anyway. Got a new alias and IP Address. That's what I would do if I was banned. Wait awhile, then come in under something else. Is Michel going to block all addresses from an entire city? It's too easy. I'm sure he's already here lurking.