Is that really where you think the line of demarcation is, between those with the guts to stand up for John and those without? I have seen quite a few comments about John that don't seem to have anything to do with intestinal fortitude. There are people who have spoken up about their unpleasant experiences with John and said they have no desire to re-experience it. And, again, these are the comments from those who have chosen to speak publicly.

There are people who told me privately that they felt John should be allowed to come back...but elected not to get involved in discussions. That's fine. There are also people such as Charlie Schreiner, Alan Popow and a few others who at least put together an intelligent reply, even if they said 'no'. That's also fine.

But what I have a problem with are personal attacks on John. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who complains about someone being a bully, and then states publically that someone is a viper or a piece of ****, deserves to be called onto the carpet.