I've read the posts...and quite honestly, I just don't see that at all. All I see is the inevitable reactions when you argue against what someone basically holds as a religion. All I see is personalization and claims of technical/moral superiority for a fellow who resisted my every attempt to focus on technical issues. ;-)
Sure we can agree to disagree... but if Michel reads this, he'll shake his head and the chances of getting what you (we?) want becomes more remote than ever. Which leads almost irresistibly to a pun about a "remote" view, but I won't do it. ;-)
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1