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Petition to reinstate John Petersen (JVP)
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20/02/2008 08:20:36
 
 
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>>>>>I am starting to suspect some people missed Michel's very clear statement over the weekend. Can someone with UT search capability find it and post a link? TIA.
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>>>>I think you're on to something here. Michel's sandbox, Michel's rules - seems fair to me. Second - I find it disturbing that anyone - including JVP - would care about this very much, one way or the other <s>.
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>>>We don't really know, do we? AFAIK Kevin has repeatedly evaded questions about whether John even wants to return.
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>>>Change of subject. (You're welcome). As the fervent fan of Hillary Clinton that you are <g>, you must be enjoying the Democratic primaries. Or maybe not. You probably wanted her to be the nominee, right? THEN take her out. I'm sure many Republican strategists were hoping for exactly that. What they didn't count on was Obama being strong enough to do it first. Stick a fork in her, she's done. To me the only question left (on the Democratic side) is how far the Clintons will go in their desperation and how willing they are to inflict collateral damage on their own party.
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>>I do not mourn the political passing of HRC. <s> I don't think she would be a good president. I don't know about Obama, and I don't think anyone else does either. It would seem he is pretty much a by the book representative of the left of center wing of the democratic party but it would also seem he's very smart and it is obvious he is charismatic. I think the country might benefit from him in many ways and would survive him in others. My only real concerns would be his relationship with the intelligence community and his supreme court picks.
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>>An Obama / McCain race might be the first 'I don't have to hold my nose to vote' moment America has had in a while and in that sense I'd welcome it. With a win by either the sandbox has definitely been shaken up and we're probably about ready for that. I could actually imagine a 'West Wing' ending where Obama wins, makes Joe Lieberman Secretary of State and McCain Sec Def and one of the Clintons UN ambassador and Al Gore sec of Interior ( or Energy - do we still have a sec of energy? )
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>>But I think this year is going to be another example of the Democratic party snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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>>But I'm ready to play the running mate game. Huckabee obviously wants it, and McCain still needs to energize the right but of course I hope he doesn't go that way. I still want a black or latina woman.
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>>Obama's obvious best choice would be Lieberman but that ain't gonna happen, second best would be Bloomberg but that also ain't gonna happen so I'm going with Feinstein - tough, savvy, west-coast, Jewish ( and probably capable of being President if she had to be - definitely a big cut above HRC ) Boxer or Pelosi would be a lot less credible but is certainly possible. Think woman, think West Coast.
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>Your paragraph about not having to hold your nose is exactly where I am coming from, and why I have been for both Obama and McCain. We really need to get beyond the vicious partisanship and back to solving our problems. They both have positions that will not appeal to the other side but I think they are close enough to the center and willing enough to work with the "opposition." The reason I have hope for Obama in particular is he is pulling in younger voters who have seen no reason to get involved in the political process until now. Maybe I am just going through that Wild Enthusiasm stage that usually gets ground down after the inauguration but I see Obama leading us back to a can-do attitude. And he will certainly repair some of the damage done with our allies.
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>I haven't thought much about veep and so forth. You know what would be a great choice for both Obama and McCain, whichever one wins? Each other. Now there is a radical thought. Supposedly they don't like each other much but you know how things get said in the heat of a campaign. Nothing would send a clearer signal that it is going to be a new era in American politics.

How about McCain picking Michel Obama and Obama picking Cindi McCain?

Obama - Feinstein : you heard it here first


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
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Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

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