You and Walter just refuse to admit when you've stated something incorrectly.I feel a great sense of deja vu. ;-)
No doubt I'll be told later on that I refused to provide evidence to support my position, refused to admit that I was wrong and claimed that JVP was made MVP prior to 2000 for offering to support a product that wasn't released yet. ;-) Whatever.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us."
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1