>>>There seems (still) to be big encouragement - at least by the media - for Bloomberg to run. Why is Nader such a joke?... and such a 'destroyer'?
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>>Because there's a desperate belief that only Dems can save the country, and yet even though so many believe in it, they still fear that the numbers of disilusioned won't suffice to surpass what these guys (aka GOP) can steal. So Nader is perceived as basically stealing votes from the left (because nobody really expects anybody from the right to even listen to what he has to say) and thus helping them lose again. Ergo, traitor.
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>Well I'm anxious to hear just how many Ectectoral College votes Nader actually got.
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>If it was zero then he really didn't (as I understand it) hurt anyone/anything.

The flaw in your reasoning is that Nader (arguably) took enough votes away from Gore in Florida to swing the state and its electoral votes to Bush.