>>>>There seems (still) to be big encouragement - at least by the media - for Bloomberg to run. Why is Nader such a joke?... and such a 'destroyer'?
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>>>Because there's a desperate belief that only Dems can save the country, and yet even though so many believe in it, they still fear that the numbers of disilusioned won't suffice to surpass what these guys (aka GOP) can steal. So Nader is perceived as basically stealing votes from the left (because nobody really expects anybody from the right to even listen to what he has to say) and thus helping them lose again. Ergo, traitor.
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>>Well I'm anxious to hear just how many Ectectoral College votes Nader actually got.
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>>If it was zero then he really didn't (as I understand it) hurt anyone/anything.
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>That's just bad math. If Nadar in fact drew votes from Democrats causing them to lose a state they would have otherwise won to GOP then he hurt them - and in 2000 it means he cost them the election.

Yes, that's what I was wondering. And I just heard on CNN that Nader did cost Gore the Florida Electoral College vote(s?).