OK, first, cards are on the table - who are the "insecure .NET wannabes"? I really want to hear some names, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Here we go again:

1) I'm still waiting for refs to the posts where you say that VFP'ers swarmed JVP's polite observations.

2) I don't see you asking others for examples of the negative generalizations they apply to the VFP community.

So, if the cards are on the table: where are yours? I don't see any. Except possibly the "do as I say, not as I do" card. ;-)

I see no issue with Woody's statement (I agree with his statement, and I would hope you don't characterize me as a "wannabe")

OK. so if the cards are on the table: please provide some examples of the "religious zeal" defenses of VFP with which you say you agree. The only "religious zeal" I see is that directed at somebody who dared to describe experience different from what the NET faithful insist is true.

You have zero issue in characterizing these statements as "provocations", yet you let far more derisive statements from specific members go with a free pass.

We're in the VFP forum. If people say "rah rah Blue! Go blue!" in the Blue club house, then so what. If people come into the Blue club house to say "Red rules! Rah rah Red! Blue is a girl's blouse!" then I call it provocative.

Do you see VFP people going into NET forums to act provocatively? No. QED.