FWIW, those two are billed as star attractions in user group meetings.

What's the attendance at these meetings?

I know one person who wasn't interested in one of the "stars" a few months ago (Message #1275322)

And heck, how about this one? (Message #1268460).


One of them seems to be back as moderator on MSDN.

Which one? The self-described PayMaster? Or the one who says, "that is part of the reason that I have been awarded the MVP award since 1999"?


...while their detractors mouth off from afar.

That's us, right?


You know what I think about self-selected elites, but around here they're the only ones doing stuff, meaning they *are* in fact in charge.

Uhm, in charge of what....the self-selection committee?