>Craig, a question, since you seem to be speaking for Whil - in the last year, what has he given to the community? (By that I mean provided to the community outside of commercial conferences or other commercial ventures)

Who's next on your list?

You remind me of the old joke about two guys sitting and drinking and talking about the people they know and somewhere by the third beer they've blacklisted the whole village - everyone has done this or that and can't be trusted or is unworthy.

- gee, it seems only you and I are some good here!

- leave yourself out...