>>>>>http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/08/bush.torture.ap/index.html
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>>>>>And we wonder why so many people hate us.
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>>>>The real issue here is only the fact that we in North America have a free press so the people of the world get to read about our system and methods. And so I ask this question. Would you rather be interrogated by the USA or Saudi Arabia?
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>>>That's off point, unless you are saying whatever the U.S. does is OK as long as some other country is doing worse things. I am sure you would not try to make that case.
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>>>The statement that only we in North America have a free press is equally dubious. You must be waking up slowly today ;-)
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>>>UPDATE: Rereading, I see you didn't say that about a free press. My mistake. Maybe I am the one waking up slowly ;-)
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>>What I am saying is, no matter what country, it is the value of the information that determines the pressure upon the source. Water boarding does not kill people. It just feels that way to the recipient. In the middle east one of the minor methods is the beat the soles of the feet until your feet are shredded or you admit the guilt they tell you to admit. Water boarding or never walking again? Which one do you want?
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>I see my point was not made before so there's probably no "point" trying to make it again. Just in case, I don't think something is all right just because something else is worse. We should not be torturing, period. Which was the essence of the bill Bush vetoed.

I understood your remar and I replied.