Hi,
DNA isn't as exact as it is made out to be, especially if gathered via a mass screening.
Human error, degraded samples, contamination etc combined with an officier that didn't like the attitude of the individual being grilled about something he had absolutely nothing to do with, can result in someone having to fork out thousands to prove their innocence, which by the way they don't get reimbursed for.

About 90% of all DNA is the same, it is only about 10% that gives the variance.

>Actually just about every time collecting DNA is brought up in the news your fears are also brought up. I'm pretty sure the majority in this country would be vehemently against it. That would include finger printing as well.
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>>Hi,
>> You seem to be one of the few that seem to understand where all this could end up.
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>>>Alan, you seem to have missed the point (a lot of that going on lately. I must try hrder),
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>>>I'm talking about a single thing with a single purpose growing way beyond its original intention, usually to the detriment of some group somehere.
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>>>Do I care if some guy goes into a parking lot to have a pee? NO! He's not ging to pi$$ on a car, he's going to 9iss on the pavement/ground.
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>>>I don't have a big problem with red ligh cameras, but I do have a problem if I get demerit points when I may not have been the driver. It better not become *my* job to prove I wasn't the driver.
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>>>Tape/film alone is insufficient, 99% of the time, to CONVICT someone. If they're face is clearly identifiable, OK. Otherwise no penalty should be imposed on the registered owner of the car. They may have been at home, fast asleep.
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>>>I'm sure you know who took most advantage of the photo-radar... people with fast fancy cars who could afford the ticket (no points deductible). They didn't let the cameras slow them down. They just wrote more cheques.
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>>>The U.K. is fast becoming the implementation of Big Brother. The infrastructure is moving nicely towards completion.
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>>>>>>I got my first CCTV parking ticket a few weeks ago. 9:30 pm not causing an obstruction popped into the fish and chip shop for 5 minutes. 2 weeks later I get a picture and a request/demand for £60.00.
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>>>>>>We've had a couple of examples of CCTV misuse where the people watching the CCTV have used it to spy on ladies undressing in tower blocks. The cameras have extremely powerful telephoto lenses.
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>>>>>I can remember that most of us this side of the pond were more than a bit amazed when we saw how wholeheartedly Brits were accepting the cameras.
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>>>>>And, to me, this is a prime example of "the thin edge of the wedge" in full operation:
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>>>>>1. Start with strictly for security purposes - to better be able to catch evil doers by spotting/following them from afar and then swooping in to pick them up.
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>>>>An extremely good thing.
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>>>>>2. Then is added to it something like 'we have people's (of "interest") pictures on hand, so let's add them to the database so we can follow their movement too'.
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>>>>A possibly questionable thing.
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>>>>>3) Then it becomes 'we can catch traffic violations on tape and go right out and ticket the person'.
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>>>>A good thing. I'm a firm believer in red-light cameras and any other cameras that might help to get the rotten drivers off the road.
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>>>>>4) Then it grows to 'Let's change the laws so that we can ticket people directly based on the tape "evidence".
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>>>>Same again.
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>>>>>5) Then it becomes 'Let's ticket these rogues ANYTIME for any infraction regardless of the actual impact of the infraction at the time it occurred'.
>>>>>- I understand that some poor bloke as ticketed when he was caught walking deep into a parking lot to take a (more private) leak.
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>>>>A very good thing. You'd think so too if he peed on your car.
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>>>>>Who can say what's next. But yu can count on the fact tht if there's any kind of revenue that can be associated with it, it will be implemented.
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>>>>>enjoy your privacy < S >.
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>>>>I count it as 4 to 1 on the side of good things. I could live with it. And remember, I'm a bleeding heart, pinko liberal.
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>>>>>>>I think a guest worker program is necessary. I have no problem with any and all visitors (tourists) and guest workers as long as they provide solid identification and submit to fingerprinting or even a DNA sample to be here. Of course, strangely, I also have no problem with fingerprinting every citizen of the U.S. and even taking a DNA sample of every person in the U.S. :o) (I've been fingerprinted too many times to count in this country and others) I really don't see how that infringes on my rights other than the right (which doesn't exist) of committing a crime and getting away with it. The powers that be cannot watch your every move unlike the many cameras in the UK which do that. Still, I have no problem with cameras in all public areas but I draw the line on cameras in our homes.
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>>>>>>>>I know where you stand on illegal immigration but isn't there a difference between the policy(-ies) there and sealing the borders so hardly anyone can enter? The latter is what Bill was suggesting.
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>>>>>>>>>Great idea Mike! Thank you. I'll send out the notifications to the 12 million illegal immigrants to all come over to your house! :o)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> One other thing bothers me with the US, what would you think if, to be allowed into our country as a tourist you had to be fingerprinted at the point of entry. This currently is the case upon entry into the USA.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>It is a violation of basic rights of freedom.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>Your thoughts.
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>>>>>>>>>>>You have the freedom to not enter the US. The US has the responsibility to do whatever it takes to protect its citizens. The US has enough enemies abroad to justify closing the borders for all except critical commerce or medical emergencies IMO.
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>>>>>>>>>>Isolationism is not the answer, as tempting as it seems sometimes. The U.S.'s isolationism between the two World Wars is viewed by historians as a key factor in both the Depression and the rise of Nazi Germany.