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19/03/2008 10:44:51
 
 
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Politics
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Titre:
Divers
Thread ID:
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Message ID:
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>>>>Dream on. He went to the same church every Sunday and never heard what the pastor said. Great memory and attention to details.
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>>>That's not what he said. He said he sometimes heard things he disagreed with, but that he heard lots more there, too.
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>>>I don't know about you, but I've disagreed with my rabbi's sermons plenty of times, and wouldn't want his politics to be assumed to be mine. (FWIW, I said the same thing before Obama said something like it in his speech.) A church or synagogue is much more than just the preacher; it's a community that one belongs to for lots of reasons.
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>>>Tamar
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>>Did he say it before or after? Initial reaction was that he never heard and (a bit after) that he did not pay attention. Now (bigger after) he heard but could not disown.
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>I haven't heard every word Obama's said on the subject, but the impression I have is that he said he wasn't there for the inflammatory stuff that was widely played last week, and that he was there sometimes when things were said that he disagreed with.
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It is difficult to discuss impressions.

>>Hopefully, your rabbi has milder views. In my books if you hear something that you don't like much (let's put it diplomatically) and stay silent and continue normal discourse, as if nothing happened, with the person then the inaction becomes a complicity.
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>What you do depends on the setting. I have called people on bigoted comments more than once, but not every single time I've heard one. With some people, after a while, you simply agree to disagree.
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>Tamar

I think it may depend on comments, i.e. how bigoted they are perceived. Simple agreement, as you put it, may just indicate that you, or anyone else, do not consider them as bigoted enough, while other comments, perceived as being more bigoted, could cause different reaction. In other words, our reactions characterize ourselves more than things we react to. Hopefully, you recognize that I talk primarily about Mr.Obama, and not about Mrs.Granor.
Please, note that we are not discussing guest party invitation. It is about the highest office of the mightiest country in the world.
Edward Pikman
Independent Consultant
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