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25/03/2008 14:25:27
 
 
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Divers
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I'm at jskoziol4@comcast.net Tried emailing to your addy but it bombed out.

>Will do. Please email your mailing address to mbeane@inbox.com. I am on a fiction kick at the moment so it may not be right away.
>
>>Please do (the HST history). I'd love to see it.
>>
>>>I am trying to think of another example but I think Obama breaks the mold for black Chicago politicians. He has done community work but has never been one to spend all his time wailing about racial injustice. Maybe because he isn't originally from Da South Side; he spent most of his youth in Hawaii. Maybe that's where he got his essentially sunny disposition.
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>>>It would be nice to have HST around to comment on this campaign. I am sporadically reading the new oral history about him. Will send it along when I am finished if you like.
>>>
>>>>I appreciate your view on this, Mike, but as I replied to Tamar he comes from a political environment where he had to be radicalized to be elected - black Chicago politics. Now he has to turn that corner and it's tough; perhaps unfairly so. As has been said of Democratic presidential candidates in the past - "run left for the nomination then centrist for the win". Obama simply starts a little more to the left than most because he hasn't been around for that long to build a more centrist legacy.
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>>>>His hand was forced for sure, but he does have some 'splainin' to do on his radical ties. As to the Clintons I think they're sitting this one out as they were already burned once trying to inject race into the ... errr ... race.
>>>>
>>>>I hope all the staffers on all sides are taking good notes because this campaign will be one for the ages to be studied over and over. I wish Thompson was still alive because this is big-time "fear and loathing".
>>>>
>>>>>But Obama has steadfastly avoided talking about race. He was forced into this speech by the remarks from Geraldine Ferraro and all the hoo-ha about things his pastor has said. The not-so-subtle hand of the Clintons is clearly behind both of those "issues." Their negative politics are working so we should expect more of it. From listening to Obama for a while now I know he wants to keep race out of the campaign as much as possible. Unfortunately his hand was forced. And he observed enough of the 2004 race that he isn't going to let himself be Swift-boated by a bogus issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, race is still a factor in American life. But it is wrong to say Obama is the one bringing it up for his own purposes. He has tried to take the high road. No chance of meeting the Clintons there, of course. (The latest: statements by Hillary and her chief strategist and kneecapper, Harold Ickes, saying the delegates pledged to Obama from the states he has won aren't really pledged and can change their minds. The Clintons will truly stop at nothing).
>>>>>
>>>>>>For a time I thought I could support Obama. Early on it seemed that maybe he was the next JFK; an idealist with a fresh perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, here we go again, the injection of race into the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am sick and tired of race being an issue as if we hadn't grown since the 1960's. Obama attends church for decades with a firebrand preacher who talks as if it's 1963 and Mississippi. He claims that the sermons never bothered or impacted him. I call BS on that.
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>>>>>>I repeat: I am sick of hearing about race. And gender. The media orgasmed when Pelosi became first woman Speaker and, to a lesser degree, when Rice became Secretary of State. Why?? Why do they constantly point out the things were not supposed to pay attention to anymore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I want a candidate who's American. I don't want to hear black and white or male and female. Obama has slid into the trap the media sets with compartmentalizing based on color or gender. Whoops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Guess I'm voting for McCain. Or the Libertarian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well worth the read:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.drudgereport.com/flashos.htm
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John Koziol, ex-MVP, ex-MS, ex-FoxTeam. Just call me "X"
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" - Hunter Thompson (Gonzo) RIP 2/19/05
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