Thanks again, Viv! So, I can just httppost the SOAP xml basically, it seems (as long as I have the headers set correctly). I guess using SOAP with vfp's ffc classes is only good when non-complex object types are involved (ie. passing/returning objects is not doable)? Is that a fair statement? Many thanks again. If anyone else can offer some help too, I would surely appreciate it. I'm just surprised that VFP's ffc classes have such limitations with SOAP after all the talk about using SOAP with VFP. Just one more question, should I be using the SOAP 1.1 or 1.2 examples shown in the method samples at: http://www.triphomes.com/webservices/wvrgroupservice.asmx