For completeness sake, while I am deeply troubled by the human rights violations committed by the U.S., European countries are not completely clean, either. For example, it was reported in the news that several European governments (including Germany) were complicit in the secret CIA
torture camps overseas prisons. Which deeply troubles me, too. (Also for completeness sake, I should note that I was born in Tübingen.)
>John
>Obliviation. Pure obliviation.
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>You where not the first inhabitants of the area you live in and if you don't call it genocide I can't help.
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>And you use others to do the the dirty jobs too.
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>Anyway I talk about
now.
>Your country is that with that torture and believes on the results of it, not mine. You are the one that poisened indochina.
>You have heard about My Lai? Abū Ghurayb? Guantanamo Bay detention camp?
>A lot of your people (those calling "beat 'em up") are not far away form supporting genocide.
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>Update:
>And we have the 4. of April. Maybe somebody mention what happen to opposition in your country. It might not directly linked to the your administration, but the result is the same.
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>I do not say there is no upright people in your country, but there are others too.
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>I might not be older then you. But I have seen the wind of change in germany, I've seen the lies of both sides and the nazis time is not that far away. We still have ruins in the towns.
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>We do not need your "freedom" fights. We do not support your country in this.
>We work hardly to not set you people on the same level with your administration. This is all we can do, since we will not cut your freedom. We try not to spit at those liars with the southern accent and the big canadian flag on there backpacks. But we know how lies.
>/Update
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>You somehow miss how thin the layer of civilization is and how easy the wrong side of men turns upwards. Look for "The third wave".
Difference in opinions hath cost many millions of lives: for instance, whether flesh be bread, or bread be flesh; whether whistling be a vice or a virtue; whether it be better to kiss a post, or throw it into the fire... (from Gulliver's Travels)