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Did our govt commit warcrimes?
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04/04/2008 09:29:07
 
 
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04/04/2008 03:40:31
Lutz Scheffler
Lutz Scheffler Software Ingenieurbüro
Dresden, Allemagne
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No, you are correct. The Bundeswehr in barracks in Coesfeld, Westphalia just torture their own recruits.

Do you recall the words of Professor Morus Markard? (on Monitor):

“During the soldiers’ education, the Bundeswehr must eliminate the moral inhibitions that are widespread within our society against killing other people, against humiliating them, and against measures that either resemble torture or that are torture.... [The Bundeswehr] must ensure that these inhibitions are done away with in principle and in such a manner that foreign deployments involving the killing, humiliation and, under certain conditions, the torture of other people becomes possible. "

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/jan2005/germ-j03.shtml

The conduct of our military, even under the most stressful and confusing of wartime situations, must be closely watched. When actions in contraindiction of the Geneva Conventions occur, they must be stopped and those at the highest levels punished. Only when the leadership answers for their troop actions do real changes occur. I agree with you that some of the conduct has been despicable recently. I disagree that it is due to this administration. This has been going on since the 60s. Our allies condoned it or looked the other way and even participated in many cases - hopefully that will come out eventually but I doubt it.




>John
>Obliviation. Pure obliviation.
>
>You where not the first inhabitants of the area you live in and if you don't call it genocide I can't help.
>
>And you use others to do the the dirty jobs too.
>
>Anyway I talk about now.
>Your country is that with that torture and believes on the results of it, not mine. You are the one that poisened indochina.
>You have heard about My Lai? Abū Ghurayb? Guantanamo Bay detention camp?
>A lot of your people (those calling "beat 'em up") are not far away form supporting genocide.
>
>Update:
>And we have the 4. of April. Maybe somebody mention what happen to opposition in your country. It might not directly linked to the your administration, but the result is the same.
>
>I do not say there is no upright people in your country, but there are others too.
>
>I might not be older then you. But I have seen the wind of change in germany, I've seen the lies of both sides and the nazis time is not that far away. We still have ruins in the towns.
>
>We do not need your "freedom" fights. We do not support your country in this.
>We work hardly to not set you people on the same level with your administration. This is all we can do, since we will not cut your freedom. We try not to spit at those liars with the southern accent and the big canadian flag on there backpacks. But we know how lies.
>/Update
>
>You somehow miss how thin the layer of civilization is and how easy the wrong side of men turns upwards. Look for "The third wave".
>
>Agnes
>>Agnes, you are exactly correct in one respect. Freedom can only be measured by the openness of dissent and opposition to the ruling party. Bravo, and good point.
>>
>>OTOH, we don't kill our opposition. We don't have a White Rose Society but, if we did, I doubt they'd be hung or beheaded.
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>>We also don't occupy for genocidal reasons or destroy a nation and call it the General Government.
>>
>>Gosh, who could I be thinking of?
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