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Bleeding hearts: Defend this
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21/04/2008 15:57:00
 
 
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21/04/2008 15:53:49
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They were not illegal immigrants. The Indian Nations didn't think in terms of European land ownership and personal property. (not to stir up another debate, but the most of the world was settled by war(s) - the winners got the spoils)


>Yup, that would be the ones.
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>>I'm not clear on who (in U.S. history that allowed other immigrants in) you consider illegal immigrants? Are you referring those who settled here when only the American Indian Nations resided here?
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>>>Again, though, one could make the argument that illegal immigrants allowing other immigrants in doesn't make the second group legal.
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>>>Kinda like someone breaking into your house and inviting all their neighborhood over for a party. Whom do you have arrested? Beyond that though, you throw everyone else out of your house.
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>>>My point being that the 'original settlers' were illegal immigrants and for those saying that they would deport anyone who had illegal immigrants in their ancestory, my question was "How far back are you willing to go?" and Jay, rather than answering the question, decided to try to twit me on history.
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>>>>Actually he is correct to a point. Other than the Chinese exclusion law of 1882, Congress passed the very first Immigration Quota Act of 1921 and the even more restrictive Immigration Act of 1924.
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>>>>Up until then it was a free for all and no immigration (other than Chinese) was illegal.
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>>>>Here is an interesting timeline:
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>>>>http://www.ellisislandimmigrants.org/ellis_island_immigrants.htm
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>>>>>>>>Not really clear on your history. Most were legal immigrants. Knowing that now, do you stand by your post as it is?
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>>>>>>>um....no, no they weren't. To be a legal immigrant, you need permission of those people already residing in the area you will be moving to. Last time I checked, there was no permission given, just area taken. And please don't bring up the purchase of Manhattan island.
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>>>>>>>So, if you really want to get steely bottomed on this, how far back are you willing to go?
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>>>>>>Again, you're wrong. They were allowed in. It's not the same no matter how often you say it is.
>>>>>Who allowed them? Themselves?
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