>That still did not do it. I dragged it out a lot, this is a recurring theme throughout all of the reports I have designed. Only on the sum of the productid group does it display **** as far as I know there are no numeric overflows in any of the tables
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>On the format tab there is no expression set at all.
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>Any Ideas I am stumped
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>Thanks again,
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>Fred W.

OK, first lets find out what the value you are trying to display is:

From the command window, use your tables and:

SET TALK ON
SUM Expression

Where Expression is the same expression you are summing in your report.

What does this display?