Sheesh, well I've been swamped lately so I seem to be missing a lot! Time to pay attention I guess :o) I think the attacks on McCain will all come out when the Democrat ticket is decided. Which reminds me, no one is speaking about John Edward's delegates. they are like super delegates now and can pledge to whomever they wish, but typically they go with who ever the candidate they supported decides to back. John has not supported either yet but both have courted him. He's waiting for something... If all 200 go to either candidate it could change things...


>Yes you are confused. I'm not directing these comments at you because I think you represent mccain and republicans.
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>I started off replying to your comment about people not paying attention to the candidates stands on anything.
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>I don't know if this religious thing is an example of people not paying attention. But Obama's relationship with Wright is being put thru the wringer. Whereas I don't hear anything from the supposed "mainstream" press about McCains relationship with Hagee.
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>There are at least 2 examples that come to mind that show why Stewart is in some ways a better news source, in case you're asking:
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>1) Him calling out Tucker Carlson and his partner on CNN's Crossfire was absolutely brilliant. And the fact that Tucker had no clue what Stewart was talking about shows the problem.
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>2) An example I've used in many times in discussions with friends. This dates back to when the white house was finally renouncing any kind of relationship with Chalabi. The Daily Show played a clip of bush giving a short speech talking about how he doesn't even know who this Chalabi is. Some to the effect of "It's not like I say, I have to make a decision about Iraq. Get Chalabi in here so I can get his thoughts".
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>They then played a clip of the state of the union address that was given only a month prior. Sitting directly behind Laura in the 2nd row is.....Chalabi. The camera then returns to Stewart who goes into a rant about how not just anyone can walk up to the white house and ask for these 2nd row tickets.
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>In many instances, the Daily Show is the only place I've seen some really important questions asked.
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>>I'm confused, I thought McCain was the Republican nominee, not Gingrich... (Your comment about Steward being a better news source is absolutely hilarious!) :o)
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>>I don't want McCain to become President - I'm not sure why you keep directing these comments about republicans and mccain at me (I'm not a Republican either). I've only pointed out what I see is wrong with all of the candidates when someone pushes them for the position here. There is no GOOD candidate.
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>>>Hate has never been part of the religious discussion before. I just watched the Daily Show tape with Gingrich. He did everything he could to not answer Stewart's questions about McCain's relationship with Hagee.
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>>>The few replies that Newt gave to a direct question were assinine at best. Saying it's worse for Obama cause he's hung at this church for 20 yrs vs. McCain just now approaching Hagee. And Stewart had to correct Newt. When he made some kind of comment about McCain distancing himself from religion, Stewart read McCain's comment's from a news talk show where he talked about how much he welcomed Hagee's support.
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>>>This also goes to show why, to Stewart's dismay, his show many times is a better news source then shows that call themselves news programs.
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>>>>This is nothing compared to what happened when Kennedy ran...
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>>>>>I've never heard the general discussion of religion as it relates to politicians. I could be wrong, but as far as i know, it didn't really become a hot topic until someone in bush's camp decided that they were going to win the election by courting the evangelicals.
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>>>>>McCain appears to be following in bush's footsteps by courting Hagee. Even thou he's made disparaging comments about evangelicals in the past. If it was a group I belonged to I would call it pandering. But I'm not aware of any religious group that has the political power that evangelicals appear to have these days.
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>>>>>And I find that extremely dangerous.
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>>>>>>That leads us to the question as to which religion is safe for a presidential candidate to belong to these days?
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>>>>>>>Preach hate...nah. Never happen from the evangelicals. Hagee didn't make comments like Hurricane Katrina what "the judgement of God" because it was to punish gays in NO. He hasn't said the Koran is a "scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews". He hasn't call Catholicism a "godless theology or hate.
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>>>>>>>He doesn't have a lobbying group called "Christians United for Israel". Whose main purpose is to try and push our govt into starting a major war in the middle east to bring on the apocalypse.
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>>>>>>>Nope, nope. None of the above. I know. Preaching hate against gays is just doing Gods work, huh?
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>>>>>>>>How could it be worse? I haven't heard anything even close to the Reverend Wright nonsense - what did I miss? Unless the evangelical preaches hate and racism and anti-americanism, I don't see how it could be as bad.
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>>>>>>>>>What do you think of McCain trying to get in good with evangelicals? What's the guy's name, Hagee? It sounds just as bad, if not worse then anything Obama's done. It hasn't been reported too much, but I would assume that it would become a hot topic in the fall.
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>>>>>>>>>>I agree with you. McCain will get hit hard as soon as the democrat ticket is finally decided and it is a 2-man(?) race :o)
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>>>>>>>>>>>To have his record analyzed in minute detail and everything negative, or capable of being portrayed negatively, dredged up. It's not like he is unblemished. Like being part of the Keating Five. Like the real estate buddy of his he has tried to help with land deals, on U.S. Senate stationery. I'm sure there's more.
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>>>>>>>>>>>Please understand I am not advocating that kind of attack politics. I am not. I hate it. But you can bet it will happen.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>What do you mean about his turn will come?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>McCain's turn will come. He has just been fortunate so far, first by a weak Republican field and now an extended mud fight between the Democrats.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Great post, Jake and I think you've hit the nail on the head. Obama can't survive McCain and Clinton is losing credibility.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I agree that McCain is the lesser of three evils, however, he's no more likely to really screw things up than Hilary. Let me explain.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If Hilary is elected it will mean that she has 'stolen' the nomination from Obama in many eyes. She will have won a close battle with McCain, both popular and electoral, as many Obama supporters either hold their nose and vote Hilary, or more likely stay home. This result means that the Dems are not likely to get to 60 senators and thus the Reps can limit the damage in terms of big social issues. Hilary will still mess with our rights through environmental legislation, federal consolidation and the largest tax increase in history, but she won't get the big destructive items through.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I do not think Obama can win against McCain, in fact I think we're looking at an electoral landslide. Thus, if he does win, I believe that means something big has happened to shift a great deal of states to him. This likely means the Dems will get their 60 senators and then we see the greatest shift in power from the individual and the states to the federal government since FDR. Everything is on the table, property rights, gun rights, massive land grabs through environmental regulation, world-court, universal health care, ...
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The damage done by FDR has only recently been realized and it is nearly impossible to correct. Obama's policies will undoubtedly put the final nail in the coffin of the founders original intent for this country and the unintended consequences could put us on an irreversible path towards our own collapse. If that happens I just hope we get lucky, like we did following Carter, and the right person appears on the scene to right the ship.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Truer words were never spoken. Although McCain seems less likely to screw it all up than the two other knee-jerk socialists.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Don't feel bad though, after all we all have a crappy choice to make this election. I'm just hoping none of these three stooges destroys the country before 2012.