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11/05/2008 02:52:47
 
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Third Bush term? Mike, you're reading from the Dem talking points. McCain is no Bush.

My gut (and math logic) tells me that Obama is going to win the nomination but will have his butt handed to him in the general election. Obama is inexperienced and, I believe, seen as too elite and passive. I simply don't believe in polls since they're rarely on the mark.

Then again, how each candidate conducts his (or her) campaign can make a huge difference to the outcome. I think the first Obama-McCain debate will be a stake in the ground as to how this will all turn out.

All things being equal, McCain has loads more experience than Obama so Obama has to make him look like Bush-lite and old and out of touch. McCain has to "wimpify" Obama and make him look naive. Who will succeed?

>I have never said the Democrats don't resort to shenanigans of their own, only that it isn't just Democrats who do it. IAC we are straying from the original point that it's the Republicans who are trying to block voters in targeted demographic groups.
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>According to a new poll Obama now has a 46-40 lead over McCain. Of course it doesn't mean a lot now, half a year before the election, but it is a change from recent polls. I think (as a Democrat, of course) that with the focus shifting off the tussle for the Democratic nomination it is going to sink in that McCain is essentially running for a third Bush term.
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>>I am reminded of the time a few years back when they were allowed, in violation of state election laws, to substitute a candidate for the US Senate.
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>>And it ain't Republicans trying to disrupt troop and material transports during war protests.
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>>Don't take it from me but listen to John Harvey's comments. He has been on the investigative front lines of this issue for some time.
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>>>Those dastardly Dems!
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>>>>Yup, but remember, the Dems have a habit of ignoring laws when they think they're "in the right".
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>>>>>Buying and/or selling votes in a federal election is a federal crime. I think it can incur a $10,000 fine and five years in jail. There have been previous incidents of vote selling on ebay or in the paper. They usually get prosecuted - I guess this guy didn't check the law?
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>>>>>>Disturbing.
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>>>>>>>http://cbs13.com/local/Superdelegate.Vote.Ybarra.2.718616.html
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>>>>>>>Ok, I won't comment on the party...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In this tight battle for the Democratic nomination we've heard a lot about the candidates courting superdelegates.
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>>>>>>>But, one superdelegate is courting the candidates. He says he'll sell his vote for a price. A very high price: $20 million.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Steven Ybarra of Sacramento says that eight-figure price is peanuts for the presidency

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>>>>>>>Pay attention to how he came up with the amount of 20 million...
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John Koziol, ex-MVP, ex-MS, ex-FoxTeam. Just call me "X"
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" - Hunter Thompson (Gonzo) RIP 2/19/05
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