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The ant and the grasshopper
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Well, they're all inexperienced as President. And McCain has never run anything, has he?

>The main problem with Webb, for Obama, is experience. I agree that he'd help in the swings and south, but they'll get hammered on experience.
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>>If helping in swing states like Ohio and PA is a factor -- which it sure should be IMO -- I think Webb would be an excellent choice.
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>>>It's really just a feeling I have. I see the Obama camp going more for a veep that will bring in a swing state like Ohio or Pennsylvania rather than thinking about the broader south.
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>>>He needs someone to shore up those bitter votes, ya know? ;)
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>>>>I am impressed by Webb based on what I have read about him. It seems like he would be a good choice for several reasons. Why do you say you don't believe Obama will choose him?
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>>>>>Speaking of an interesting choice, here's what Novak says about Jim Webb.
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>>>>>"Freshman Sen. Jim Webb (Va.) is a favorite pick of many liberals. His military background can counter McCain's, and he brings a tough, blue-collar image to a ticket whose leader can reek of snobbery. Webb has been an effective critic of the Iraq War, making it easier for Democrats to make the 2008 election a referendum on Bush and Iraq."
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>>>>>Webb is exactly the kind of candidate that I do not believe Obama will choose, to his own chagrin.
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>>>>>>In that case he has an opportunity to pleasantly surprise you. I don't expect him to get your vote but maybe you will at least decide he isn't just another (far left) politician.
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>>>>>>>I agree with you that Feinstein is not the correct choice, not only because he's going to win California, but she would re-inforce the 'elitist, leftist' image. Hillary is equally bad as her negatives will hurt him from both sides of the voting aisle. He needs a middle-left statesmen from the south.
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>>>>>>>That being said I do not believe he'll make the solid choice. I'm fully expecting another solid lefty in the veep spot.
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>>>>>>>>Agreed, Obama and the party should want nothing more than for Hillary to go far, far away. Veep? Good lord in the morning. Can you imagine having not only Hillary but also Bill in an allegedly subordinate role? The next time either of them doesn't try to be in charge will be the first. Obama would need neck surgery from watching over his shoulder all the time.
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>>>>>>>>According to Carl Bernstein, one of the reasons Hillary may push hard for the VP slot is she doesn't really want to return to the Senate. She has burned a lot of bridges in the campaign, especially in her own party.
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>>>>>>>>Feinstein would be an interesting choice. She's been a pretty good senator. OTOH she comes from a state Obama is going to win anyway and would do nothing to combat charges that Obama is liberal and "not strong enough." One intriguing idea I heard the other day is Chuck Hagel, the retiring Republican Senator from Nebraska. The Republican hard right already hates him and now they could hate him more <g>.
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>>>>>>>>>If Obama were to even offer her the spot on the ticket I would question not just his judgment but his sanity. The Dem party will buy her off by retiring the 20mil debt of her campaign hoping she will not (subtly) sabotage Obama in 08 so she has a shot in 12 (the Dick Morris thesis - and therefore formulated with a great understanding of the Clintonian mindset)
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>>>>>>>>>I do believe this has been another year when Dems will wrest defeat from the jaws of victory.
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>>>>>>>>>Were I an Obaman adviser I would advise Dianne Feinstein as a running mate.
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>>>>>>>>>>Another of her good ones. My ongoing annoyance with her is gradually shifting as I realize how sweet it's going to be when she finally has to admit defeat. (Which won't be today -- I see in the news she is still trying to reach out to superdelegates with a "message" from the West Virginia results).
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>>>>>>>>>>I don't know if you saw Carl Bernstein's piece the other day. It was pretty interesting. He wrote that Hillary is still trying to land the plane (his phrase) in some way other than conceding. There are those close to her campaign who say she will now fight for the VP slot. That'll be the day....
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>>>>>>>>>>>Sounds like you bought into Hillary's making 'hard working' and 'white' synonymous. <g>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MORAL OF THE STORY:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The most put upon, most discriminated against group of people in the U.S. is white males.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>COROLLARY:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Be sure to vote for the white guy in November.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>You came upon that by..?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>...reading your post.
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