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California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban
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29/05/2008 20:27:28
 
 
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>>>>>>>>If marriage is a fundamental right as opposed to a privilege I can see this argument coming up in the future based on the 1st and 14th amendments.
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>>>>>>>>>Why don't we ever see one woman marrying many men?
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>>>>>>>Marriage is a religious entity, so I can see how an athiest or agnostic might think it's okay to marry a ______________. (fill in here)
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>>>>>>It may have started out as a religious ceremony, but as it stands right now, "marriage" is a legally defined institution with benefits and responsibilities provided by the state. Take a gander at your marriage license if you disagree.
>>>>>>http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/tennessee/index.shtml
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>>>>>If marriage doesn't have a religious underpinning, then why can't people marry multiple wives, or vice versa? The only reason is a moral reason, and last I checked, the "state" is amoral (and how).
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>>>>You're assuming that only Christianity (and, in fact, only certain brands of Christianity) is a religion. Mormons are allowed more than one wife, even though most don't partake of that right, but it's there (unless they've changed the rules without telling me).
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>>>You're kidding, right? Mormon's (LDS - Salt Lake City) are explicitly limited to one wife as of about 1890 and polygamy is grounds for excommunication. (in fairness though, when they changed the rules telling you wouldn't have done much good as you were too young in 1890 to appreciate the implications <s>)
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>>My bad. I was unaware that it had changed. I'll have to recheck the 'Book of Mormon'. I thought their interpretation of God's law allowed polygamy. I guess this means there is no real barrier then to also changing the definition of marriage to include homosexual marriage either.
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>As I understand it, if the current Prophet (i.e. senior elder) had a revelation as happened in the reversal of the polygamy revelation in time for statehood, it could indeed change. I believe there were revelations in the 60s or 70s changing longstanding revelation on race relations and opening up the LDS Ministry and priesthood (virtually synonymous with full male adult membership) to a much wider pool of souls.

Wow! It's really lucky those revelations happened just when they did.

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>No expectation of the gay marriage revelation happening any time soon.
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>>And you are correct. By 1890, I was only beginning to appreciate the effects of being surrounded by immigrant cultures. Polygamy wasn't even on my radar.
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>See, I'm older than you are. The canceling of polygamy right at a time when I was thinking about settlin' down and gettin' me a good piece of bottom land short circuited my conversion. ( Polygamy sounded pretty good for child bearing and plow pulling )

Of course, you realise that means that by 2150, you'll be really old and I'll just be coming into my prime.

Best birthday card I ever got. Showed a guy in an optometrist's office face on as if the reader is standing where the eye chart is. He had that lens contraption in front of his face, and the optometrist is saying, "Ok, tell me what you see". Open the card, and the guy is saying, "I see an old person holding a birthday card."
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