>I've been working extensively with ASP.Net recently with VB code and I gotta tell you...it's just not that hard. Sure there are some weirdnesses and unintuitive stuff but one could say the same for VFP. Years ago I posted that VFP people could take over their world because we understand architecture and they only understand code syntax. With my latest experiences, I still believe that.

You should work on some java projects in large IT departments (insurance, bank). At least over here I find them to be "overarchitecting" as a group while the best people manage to create a workable architecture and implementation by keeping "code" (sometimes "byte code" <g>) still on the radar. But perhaps it is worse in germany (seriously meant).

Also remember that not all vfp frameworks automatically give you a nice and workable n-tier solution. I actually think current web platforms like ROR or Grails "teach" better architecture by creating clean MVC-patterns while still fitting into the RAD corner of development.

regards

thomas