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11/06/2008 15:55:30
 
 
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I understand that finding a home near the job you want can be difficult, however, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there are other options and we must accept the consequences of our choices.

>I don't disagree with you completely, in fact, I agree with a lot of what you've written. I agree that we are all responsible for our lives, our jobs, our futures. If we are in a career field that isn't available, it is up to us to train for a new one or move. However, finding a home near the employment and even being able to afford the cost is not the same thing. There are only so many homes within a short distance of employment. Not everyone who works at the same location will be able to move into a home or apt within a short distance. Supply and demand. Until they start building skyrise apts near every large employer or in every downtown that will hold all the employees it just won't happen.
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>>>>Sorry, I'm not buying it. No one is forced to work far from home. No one is forced to work. Hell, in the US the federal government provides numerous incentives not to work, but I digress. We all have choices we have made in the past and more to make in the future and we have to live with those decisions. If one insists on living an hour car ride from their job, that's their choice. No one forced them into it and no one is forcing them to stay. Everyone must weigh their options, make a decision and live with the consequences.
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>>>>Full Disclosure : I choose to live an hour from my work and I choose to drive an SUV.
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>>>Is that full disclosure? Do you also have oil in your portfolio?
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>>Not oil futures specifically, but I was invested in some oil related items but I stopped out after the last spike. I'm in a wait and see mode right now.
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>>>As far as living far from work, I live in the house I live in because when I came back to Toronto, it was in an area I could afford. I work where I work because the job became available to me after being 'outplaced' from my previous job, and I didn't want to go bankrupt waiting for something close to my house. You make is sound so simple. Just buy a house close to work, or get work close to home. Life is never that simple, but as long as you think Coca Cola and bottled water are as important to our lives as oil and gas, then I guess you might feel it is.
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>>I never said it was simple or easy. I said we have all made choices which have brought us to our current situation. In addition we can all make choices to live differently. There are always options. Do a google search on frugalists. It's extreme, but it's a choice.
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>>By the was, I never said coke and bottled water are as important, I cited them in regards to price. I did say that corn was essential to the world and looky here: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jND4r3B-VBZu2Ogg2_yzjYnPIP8gD9180UFG6
>>I guess we need to go after the greedy corn producers now...right?
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>>>>>You're right. They can ride their bike for 4 hours to get to work. Few live within a couple of miles of their employment. Honestly, there is not a good alternative to a vehicle which uses gas and driving in most places unless you live in one of the large metro areas which has mass transportation available. Even here in NC neither Charlotte or Raleigh have a good mass transit system or one at all other than buses which are not every where and run haphazardly. They do not even run everywhere in the city.
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>>>>>>People do not have to buy gas.
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>>>>>>>But not buying 10-15 gallons a week and it isn't required. Bottled water is usually an option. Don't need it to drive to work and if necesssary, you can drink tap water. I would argue the lower-income folks are certainly not usually paying 6.00/gallon for bottled water and buying 10 gallons a week.
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>>>>>>>>>>>Exactly what would you hope to accomplish by taking oil off the market and can you justify attempting that effort, given the historical results when this type of measure has been attempted previously. Price caps do not work, in fact, they make matters much worse.
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>>>>>>>>>>If this were an industry that was slightly out of control, then minor regulation or jail terms for abusers might work. As this industry has moved into the twilight zone of extreme price gouging of a strategic resource (it isn't just the arabs folks), nationalization of the industry makes a lot more sense.
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>>>>>>>>>Specially as a forewarning to the next gaugers - would you like to pay outrageous prices for food, water...?
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>>>>>>>>People are paying as much as $6.4/gallon for bottled water.
Wine is sunlight, held together by water - Galileo Galilei
Un jour sans vin est comme un jour sans soleil - Louis Pasteur
Water separates the people of the world; wine unites them - anonymous
Wine is the most civilized thing in the world - Ernest Hemingway
Wine makes daily living easier, less hurried, with fewer tensions and more tolerance - Benjamin Franklin
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