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This would be bad, bad, bad
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25/06/2008 16:30:58
 
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Read it long before I saw it. Don't know much about Charlie Wilson but know a bit about the guy played by Hoffman and even more about Milt Beardan, the station chief in Islamabad at that time. The book struck me as pretty interesting and more or less apolitical. I do know there was a tremendous amount of opposition to doing anything that might anger the Soviets - any unilateral action that didn't have the blessing of the UN. Some things never change.

>>>>I think it is more to the point that whoever is elected may find that they are handed a fait accompli by Israel.
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>>>There can be no incompatibility - all the final candidates were vetted by AIPAC, after pledging (hazing, if any, wasn't televised, I assume).
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>>>>You'll notice he also says that if McCain were elected the Israeli's would still feel constrained as the new admin gets up and running therefore would probably go before January if they felt that a window were closing.
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>>>>That may be just hardcore analysis. As to why he would say it publicly ... may be more due to personality than politics <s>
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>>>Which is why I actually like the author of the article. Knowing that the editor will slap an imprecise qualification in the subcaption ("John Bolton, the former American ambassador to the United Nations" - which is not exactly true), he strategically inserted a preemptive correction somewhere deep inside the text: "Mr Bush's ambassador to the UN".
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>>However much Bolton's credentials offend your politics, his analysis is pretty good. (of course this is because it pretty much matches what I've been saying here for 2 years or more <g>)
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>>Israel is very sensitive about people with nuclear ambitions talking about wiping them of the face of the earth. Even if the big talkers are bombastic Persian or Arab blowhards with delusions of empires past, they would do very well to put themselves through a reality check.
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>>There are some hard men in Tel Aviv. Sometimes American politicians whose idea of a "tough fight" is a nasty floor vote forget that "national security" isn't just a campaign issue to the Israelis. They had their 911 a long time ago.
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>Have you seen "Charlie Wilson's War"? I watched it from Netflix over the weekend and was pleasantly surprised. Not a great movie but better than I expected. Anyway, if you saw it, how would you gauge the realism level?


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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