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This would be bad, bad, bad
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25/06/2008 16:46:22
 
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Politics
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International
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Thread ID:
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Mike, I think you are really showing how out of touch you are if you believe that any newspaper considered right of center is therefore nothing but a propaganda rag and that the columnists you seem to find as 'evidence' that this isn't a 'real newspaper' are somehow less worthy than .. Michael Moore? Do you have a problem wth the NYT - and especially Pinch Sulzberger being 'a little left of center' <g> Would I be ok to dismiss anything appearing their off-hand and not coming from a real newspaper ?

>Before reading the article I tried to find out what the heck the NY Sun is. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Sun):
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>Stoll has characterized the Sun's political orientation as "right-of-center,"[4] and an associate of Conrad Black predicted in 2002 that the paper would be "certainly neoconservative in its views."[3] Editor-in-chief Lipsky describes the agenda of the paper's prominent op-ed page as "limited government, individual liberty, constitutional fundamentals, equality under the law, economic growth ... standards in literature and culture, education."[5] The Sun's roster of columnists includes many prominent neoconservative pundits, including the late William F. Buckley, Jr., Michael Barone, Daniel Pipes, and Mark Steyn.
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>The Sun is "known for its pugnacious coverage of Jewish-related issues";[6] in particular, it is "a strong proponent of Israel's right to defend itself."[4] It has published articles by pro-Israel reporter Aaron Klein.

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>>Was it innacurate?
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>>>The New York Sun? What the heck is that?
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>>>>Has his stance changed since this:
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>>>>http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obama-and-israel/69154/
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>>>>>>Yep, but then the Palestinians have one that lasts for 60 years now and shows no signs of abating - with the trigger happy Israeli government sitting on 150 long ones. I only wish there was one, at least one, American government which would slap hands on _BOTH_ sides and say "get serious about making peace, or else none of you get a single billion until you do", and mean it. Put all of the middle East and all the warring countries in a strict embargo (it doesn't work, but it makes politicians on one side feel better and on the other side get richer ;).
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>>>>>Obama has given hints that he might take such a stance and the Israel lobby is after him like hellhounds already. At this point they feel it is their entitlement to have the U.S. on their side.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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