>>C'mon. Arafat was a thug even with the bar set as low as we tend to set it for Arab leaders. He was corrupt at a level offensive even to a culture that took corruption for granted. His leadership and the murderous way he maintained it prevented thousands of more qualified Palestinians from directing what could have been a successful statehood movement by the end of the 60s and intimidated most Palestinian intellectuals into exile. His launching of the second Intifada was a disaster for the Palestians and pretty much guaranteed the success of Hamas in splitting the Palestinians. A villian? You're damn right he was. Maybe compared to George Habash or Abu Nidal he was 'moderate' but his negative influence on the progress of his own people was a lot more than just bad PR. The Israelis play tough, but they were never deceived by Arafat because they actually understood what he said in Arabic, not just what he said in English. He was definitely spiritual kin to his uncle, the Grand
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>I agree with most of that. Arafat was a thug, no question. OTOH he did force the Palestinian issue to the forefront of international debate, which I'm not sure would have happened without him. The desperately oppressed generally don't have the luxury of conducting themselves like Eton gentlemen. They're easy to ignore that way.

And him being a thug is no excuse for the other side to behave like whole Palestinian nation, including kids, are thugs. Actually, is there ever a proper excuse for occupation?