>>Liberals don't care about war, because they don't fight. They believe in surrender, at all costs. I'm afraid, I believe in protecting our interests, and doing so before the fact!
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>I'm with you there, pal. But Mike's a great guy and I'm hopeful will see the error of his ways in this particular issue.
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>I find it interesting that liberals constantly have to lash out at anyone who questions their patriotism. Even when it hasn't happened. Perhaps a little insecurity is in play?
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>In a sane, rational world, POW and long-time national security expert McCain would eat Obama for lunch in terms of whom is ready for the White House. But we live in a world where objectivity and insight is defined by cretins like Seymour Hersh.

As a matter of fact, I am a great guy <g>. (bowing deeply)

Why shouldn't liberals, or anyone else, "lash out" when their patriotism is questioned? Don't you think it's offensive? Blindly defending the government is not my definition of patriotism. Loving one's country is a lot better definition. I don't see how being satisfied with misgovernment is unpatriotic. I also don't agree that only those who have served in the military are patriotic. You didn't say that but the thought is out there, and in fact has been injected into the presidential campaign.

You may have heard that Barack Obama defended himself yesterday against charges that he is unpatriotic. He also criticized a top advisor, Wesley Clark, for disparaging John McCain's military service. Obama has said many times how much he admires McCain as a patriot and as a man. I think a lot of people were skeptical about Obama's promise to keep it positive and refrain from mud slinging. He'll start doing it, too, they all do, yada yada yada. So far he hasn't. And I would say the same of McCain. They have significantly different political positions so they have criticized each other on that basis, but as far as I have seen there has been nothing personal or below the belt. Very refreshing.