I mean it when I don't remember what Ak actually wrote, may I ask you to give me a link to it?

>Apologies accepted. Thanks. I have seen plenty of your posts and my memory (what of it there is) tells me you've been reasonable in your arguments and I believe I found myself agreeing with you often.
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>The whole NN/AK thing is a separate matter. I told NN she went too far and I think I commented that Andy went too far, but perhaps not directly to him. And I requested some clarifications on a related issue from Michel (as did others), but we didn't get a response, IIRC. That was a personal thing between them. Too personal! I stayed out of it after my intial comments.
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>My brother worked for Martin Marietta Data Systems back in the last century. They had a mainframe product he sold. MMDS stopped advertising it. Guess they wanted to save money. Guess what? The people making the decisions on this product started assuming that MMDS was no longer serious about the product. Do you wonder what happened next? I hope not. I hope you KNOW that sales dropped off. MMDS tried to blame the sales reps, but with no support their prospects said "I'm not buying a product that the company seems to be disinterested in." They saw the competitors ads in the trade journals, but not the MMDS product. They mostly didn't buy it after that. This is so obvious. Marketing works. Take a product that's been out there and just stop marketing it and sales will drop. M$ knows that WAY better than most. So when M$ does that to VFP (on top of the rumors that they bought it just to kill it), the decision makers are MUCH less likely to stay on the VFP path, despite the
>speed, the great OO, etc. that was and is VFP. Microsoft knows that. So they don't give it the support and then they act surprised that sales fall off (according to them, at least)? Hogwash. Then they use it to justify killing the product? Hogwash. Then people in the community believe this baloney! How could they possibly believe that? And they point the fingers at others in the same community? The community they say they care about? Sorry - I found it astounding that people could be so naive as to believe it or have such a lack of understanding about how perceptions work and buying decisions are made that they would believe this scenario AK puts forth. It ... is ... very ... simple: If the decision makers don't believe M$ is supporting the tool they will not keep using the tool. Only M$ can deliver the message - no one else. And the lack of advertising and other support delivered the message. Fine. That is what it is and though I don't like it I have to accept it. But
> when AK then blames the VFP demise on the community, I must admit that I was pi$sed beyond words (though I did and still do find a few <g>).
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>>Please accept my apologies, I realize I am partly shooting the wrong guy here, but I am not able to find who was my intended target. I am not able to see all the messages in this thread, IE keeps reporting errors when I try to open the whole thread.
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>>Anyway, this is not the first time I aim at the wrong target, and it's not the first time I misinterpret or mix up what someone writes. In this case I read a few messages about the NN/AK case, a case where I feel strongly that none of us, except the involved persons, has any right to make any judgments, We have heard a few fragments about what have happened, but since most of what has been told and shown only come from one part of this, it is totally unfair to make any conclusions. That AK does not comment on this does not necessarily mean that he doesn't want to, but he may be in a position where he simply can't say anything at all, for legal reasons. I don't know, I don't want to know, and I don't want to speculate. But without all the facts, no conclusion can be made. I simply can not see it any other way.
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>>But, to clear up n this matter, this is why I jumped at you, even though I added a few things which I should not have done...: I don't agree with you regarding Andy's comments about the community being partly to blame for the death of VFP, because I think he has a valid point. Could he have expressed himself differently? Sure, but Andy is Andy, and he wrote this in his own blog where he must have the right to say whatever he wants without having to defend it later. We may agree to disagree, but I think you judge hm too hard for writing just what he meant.
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