>>>>I'm pretty sure Nicholas and I are in similar places on this, which is that kids earn increased trust as they get older. The problems with watching over a kid too closely are that a) they don't develop their own judgment; and b) it can lead to sneakiness.
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>>>Hey, let's split some hairs. Some kids lose your trust, as they grow older, and spin their way toward prison....
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>>Is everything starting to look like a nail, John? ;-) I thought this was a discussion between involved parents about parenting approaches. It would surprise me if any of the participants is worried about their kids going to prison.
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>Not at all. I see many screws.... Just making the point, that there IS a dark side. Not everyone has a child who is destined to become a PhD, hence the criminal population.

Wait a minute. Are you implying that 100% of all criminals started out as children? Hmmm... I have an idea...