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>>If I haven't seen more criminals/crime, someone is in very bad shape! I would say less that 2%. But, I thought we were talking about people in general. Families in the hood aren't families, as we know them. They are generally comprised of a grandmother, several female mothers, and a bunch of kids who cannot be or are not controlled. The mother, may be working a couple of low paying jobs, or she may be selling herself, or out doing crimes like shoplifting for the gang. Talk about thriving on chaos! It's the proverbial "rough row to hoe"
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>>The issue is so complex that no single solution will fix it. The government programs need to be retooled to stop encouraging single mothers. Schools need to teach, not be caregivers, and the black males need to "man up." They are the ones who can fix this, by being fathers instead of sperm donors. For that to happen, hip hop, gangstah rap, thuggery, gangs, etc have to become a bad thing in the black community. Calling your girlfriend "my bitch" is normal in the hood right now. Would you have tolerated that? I doubt it, so the females have a hand in turning this around too. I don't think us "white boyz" can have much impact, other that trying to be supportive of programs that are measured, and tweaked when the intent doesn't deliver the desired results.
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>As opposed to the wealthy white men who fail to live up to their responsibilities but live in a 250,000 home, drive a brand new truck, own a bass boat,earn a good wage and additionally bring home 120,000.00 tax free from 6 months civilian service in Afghanistan and try to hide it? That law suit was really enjoyable, believe me. $36,000 back child support is still owed my daughter, but at least she gets a monthly amount now garnished from all future wages and military retirement. :o) I will keep it going until not only is the current paid (until she graduates college) but all back monies as well. Doesn't matter how many trips to the court with an attorney it takes. Don't mess with an ex-military, yankee, single mother living in the land of slow speakers! :o)

Haha, touch a nerve, did I? I don't see how my comments would have set off your firestorm. Would you like to compare statistics of the white guyz vs the black guyz on this family thing? Better yet, get in a squad car, go out and make a few thousand calls, and report back to us how many fatherless families you see. Yep, you'll see some dysfunctional families of all flavors, but nationwide, guess which group leads the pack?

Oh, and I got that reference to "slow speakers" too. I mean, yeah, it took me a while, but I got it, I think.. . .<g> Take your best shot, dahling, after all the crap I've been through, I've got kevlar skin.