I didn't mean they sound the same to me, I meant the way (in which - DRAGAN NOTE) they are pronounced, they sound the same, ie they are sounded the same.

And "good loochh" is how it is pronounced up North.

>Luck and look sound the same? Clean your ears! :o) when was the last time someone told you 'Good look!' :o)
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>>>>>>Similarly "toongue" cf "tong" for "tongue".
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>>>>>Not getting that. Toon is like tune, and tong is like long. Tongue rhymes with dung.
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>>>>as I said before that, ("oo" as in "wood")
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>>>Thanks guys, this was all the proof I needed. English spelling can't be trusted to have any means of representing sounds. You need an example word for everything.
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>>>BTW, if I am badly mistaken here, what is then the way to represent a short u as in butcher, so that nobody can mistake it for either yoo (as in use) nor uh (as in us)?
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>>I'd say closest is (as in us). However, where I come from phonetics are easy in that "u" (as in butcher) and "oo" (as in wood) are all pronounced "oo" as in wood. ie luck and look sound the same (though the "ck" is more "chhh", as in the German "buch" - though commonly the English think Scousers say "bewchh" and "lewchhh".