>>>>>>This is about 2 miles from where I live. New mall, looks like many across the nation.
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>>>>>>http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/3287203/
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>>>>>>Yeah, malls are really a safe place for your 12-year old to be walking around alone.
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>>>>>On the other hand they may learn to see and judge a problem and move away from it. In a place full of security guards and cctv.
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>>>>>I see from the article they are proposing a curfew. Several towns in the UK are introducing this.
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>>>>>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2461895/Cornish-town-of-Redruth-in-curfew-trial-to-combat-rowdy-youths-at-night.html
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>>>>Don't disagree there, but that is not "on the other hand" really. It's more of "in addition to." My point, if it wasn't clear enough before, is that the mall is not the nice safe haven for their kids that a lot of people would like to think it is.
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>>>Or at least _that_ mall isn't. I think if there were a rash of incidents like this in malls across the country, someone would notice and we'd be seeing a lot of media jumping on it.
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>>>Seems to me you're overgeneralizing based on the available data.
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>>Overgeneralize this.
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>>http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/team4/10339095/detail.html
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>>Just one found in about 3 seconds. There were about 2.5 million more. Let me know and I'll post some of them.
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>>How is that nice ivory tower you seem to live in?
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>our ivory tower is good Jay. But actually its about concern for our children and a different way of addressing that.
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> BTW I am against curfews. I think its wrong to treat a whole group of people as if they are all offenders.

From what I can tell, you are a fairly decent guy, and you are not elitist and disillusioned as some seem to be. What is the solution then? You seem to at least agree that there could be a problem with letting your 12-year-old wander the malls alone. Or at least I think you do.